The focus on music, memory and diaspora is central to the work of Paul Gilroy, Professor Emeritus of Humanities. With groundbreaking books such as The Black Atlantic, There Ain't No Black in the Union Jack and Black Britain, he has analysed the transatlantic interconnections between black cultures and identities beyond national borders. Zainabu Jallo, lecturer in anthropology at the University of Basel and Early Career Fellow at the Collegium Helveticum at ETH Zurich, talks to Paul Gilroy (in English) about Steve McQueen's Small Axe: Mangrove, about time and experience.